AMA with Dmitry Gerasimov, August 21, 2025

Hello everyone! I am Dmitry Gerasimov, CEO of the Cellframe network project, and here is our regular AMA session. Let’s begin with your recent questions.

The native Cellframe protocol has already been integrated by several centralized exchanges. How does such integration work? Could you briefly outline what actions need to be taken by the exchange's team and what by the project's team?

This process is really interesting. First of all, it’s mostly about organizational work, not about coding itself. You need to negotiate with a CEX. You need to get them to agree that your protocol should be implemented. Usually, exchanges are not very fond of native protocols because they require additional work and it is not obvious that it will be profitable. However, there is another side to it. There is a possibility for the exchange to onboard a new project that is related to this protocol.

That’s how we get these exchanges involved in the integration. Integration looks like a common effort. The project's team and the exchange’s team work closely together, so it can take a lot of time. That was the case with the first integration. It took us a long time to implement libraries, functions, SDKs, check everything, and fix all the bugs. Not all exchanges did it with such close collaboration with our team. Some of them did it independently from us, and it required nothing from us. They just did it. So in general, it’s enough just to read our wiki to implement everything, but usually we help and we pay for these integrations.

The CF protocol is already listed on Bitmart, Bitcointry, BingX, and CetoEX. What about integration with MEXC and Gate.io? Do you have such plans?

It does not depend on our plans; it depends on their rules. Tier-1 exchanges usually wait for Tier-2 and Tier-3 exchanges to implement new protocols first. They usually ask for some metrics, like volume and trading activity, and they need more exchanges to be on board. The last feedback that I’ve got from a Tier-1 exchange where we are present is that they are waiting for other exchanges. Now we are waiting for feedback from them, then it will be our turn… This is a really long process. I’m not sure when it will finish. Now the ball is in their court.

The team recently updated the data on the total and circulating supply of CELL tokens on the project's website, but it doesn’t match the data on aggregators and in the explorers for Ethereum and BSC. Could you please explain why this discrepancy occurs?

First of all, when the CELL tokens were initially published, it was actually done not by us but by another team. That’s why we reissued the BSC token, by the way. But when we reissued our token, we did it with a simple smart contract that doesn’t include circulating supply calculation. Calculating circulating supply when you have different operability between networks is not easy.

Some of your tokens in one network become locked in different accounts when they go through the bridge. Our bridge is not simple because, as you know, bridges are a target for hackers and scammers who want to hack them and get tokens. That’s why we built a very dedicated bridge. A dedicated bridge has a lot of wallets, but smart contracts don't know about these wallets. So, that’s why they don’t show the real circulating supply and don't show the real locked funds in every network. That’s one part of the problem.

Another part of this problem is the total supply. The total supply is still the old one. It doesn’t account for the additional emission that we have. And the third part is the aggregators. They also see this difference and ask why it happened. We provide explanations, then it goes through a bureaucratic hell while we wait for everything to be finalized.

By the way, all these networks, BSC and ETH, are not our native networks. When the migration from these networks is finished, we’ll see transparent numbers and everything will be clear. Until then, we have problems with scammers and aggregators, and the only real numbers are on the project’s website.

A question about Cellframe auctions: which tokens will be available for locking? For example, native and non-native CELL tokens, ecosystem project tokens, or m-tokens?

Only CELL tokens, both native and non-native, will be available for auctions. Because you need to specify your CF-20 address, your non-native tokens could be automatically converted if a quantum apocalypse approaches before the unlock happens. So if you lock for a long term, don’t worry if a quantum apocalypse happens. All your non-native tokens will be automatically converted to native tokens at your CF-20 address. All other tokens, m-tokens, and ecosystem project tokens won’t be used for Cellframe Auction, because you will receive the native project tokens as a reward for your voting.

Which ecosystem projects are planning to launch their own parachains in 2025-2026? Is there an understanding yet of who will be first? QEVM, CPUNK, or Node.sys?

I’m not sure who will be the first. It's better to ask these projects. However, I think that all these projects and more will launch their own parachains this year or the next one. QEVM is getting closer to mainnet, CPUNK as well, Node.sys is launching its testnet right now. By the way, they have less work to do to implement their mainnet.

The team recently implemented a transaction composer to enable the wallet to operate in a "node-less" mode. Could you elaborate on how it works? Could it become the foundation for other mechanisms beyond transaction formation?

The transaction composer is a part of our official library that allows us to work with the Web3 protocol for Cellframe applications, and it only handles transaction composing. If you want to do something more, it's available in our SDK.

Earlier this week, the team released node version 5.4. What features are planned for inclusion in the 6.0 release? Will the hardfork mechanisms and second-level sharding be part of it?

Yes, 5.4 was a really nice release. It includes a lot of bug fixes. So I suggest everyone update. However, there are new features coming in 6.0. It will include a hardfork mechanism for sure. Second-level sharding, I think, will go into 6.1. In the 6.0 release, there will be a totally new API (with legacy support, don’t worry). It will include the composer, split into two parts: DAP SDK and Cellframe SDK. It will have higher-level layers of this API. It will become more pythonic. And also, we will rework the synchronization mechanism.

The 6.0 release candidate will soon be frozen for new features, then we will start to stabilize it and prepare for release. Also, before 6.0, we will prepare the 5.5 version, but it will have some minor fixes and some backports from the previous one. The 6.0 release candidate is already available on our GitHub. You can see it and try to work with it, as well as with some of the new API.

On the Cellframe roadmap on the project's website, there is an item called "Self-developing Blockchain". Could you provide more details? What does this imply, and how is it planned to be implemented?

Right now we are preparing to launch new AI-based projects. It’s our new coding agent, very advanced, emerging from all modern technologies of autonomous coding software. We are planning to make it open-source and working with an open-source model as well. One of the key features of our coding agent is that it's independent from the model. It works with complicated machine learning, complicated pipelines, and it reduces the role of the model itself. So it can work just with QnA3 code, by the way, a very good model.

I see the future of Cellframe network development as dedicated running models, running agents operating on the Cellframe network blockchain, with rewards for running this agent. And it will code Cellframe itself. So Cellframe will code itself. That's why I call it a self-developing blockchain. This blockchain will be coded by the blockchain-driving AI.

It should be a really breakthrough technology that will merge AI and blockchain. I'm preparing a presentation about this. It will be deeply integrated into Cellframe and it should give a boost to our project. Because, as I said before, our project is not only about quantum resistance. It's also about all the other blockchain-related technologies. And AI coding as well. It is a real edge feature because without this we cannot deliver everything that we have promised. Also, it will allow us to make the project truly community-driven.

The Cellframe blockchain recently underwent a cryptographic audit by Qverify for post-quantum security. Why was this audit important, and how can its results help in the project's development?

It's a usual question for us: “Are you really post-quantum? How can you prove that you are post-quantum, that you are quantum-resistant?” So this audit is proof of our quantum resistance. That's why it's important. I think we'll pass more and more audits as well. By the way, it's the second audit of our cryptography, but the first one focused on cryptography.

You always emphasize the blockchain's resilience to quantum attacks. But what about phishing attacks? Is Cellframe prepared to withstand those?

Phishing attacks are about your brain. So we cannot close the holes in the brain, sorry. All we can do is add some notifications in wallets. But usually it doesn't help. So sorry, it's not our job. The only thing we can do is notify and warn about it. But most of this work you need to do by yourself.

Does Cellframe plan to develop integration in the RWA sector? If yes, how will you use your quantum-safe infrastructure for the tokenization and protection of physical assets?

Tokenization and protection of physical assets is not about technology, but about legal issues. For tokenization, all you need is basic blockchain mechanics to create tokens.

Yes, our quantum-safe infrastructure is preferable, especially if you are building for the long term. Here we can be a platform, and a few projects are going to bring some RWA startups based on Cellframe. But almost 100% of such projects didn't know what they were going to do, unfortunately. So, I'm a little skeptical about such projects. However, some of these projects are already implemented on different platforms and they are working. They are not big, but maybe it will be okay to onboard some of them. Let’s look forward to it.

The Cellframe Auction platform is in the final stages of preparation for internal testing. How will this auction mechanism work for the allocation of parachain slots, and what advantages will early CELL stakers gain from supporting ecosystem projects such as QEVM, KEL, and NYS?

More details about Cellframe Auction will be on our site; stay tuned. Details about parachain slots will be there as well. Briefly, a project just needs to collect enough locked CELL tokens, about 150 or 200 thousand. Exact numbers will be published before the auction begins. One advantage is that you can get an airdrop from the new project.

I saw a 12-word wallet in the wallet app. My doubt is that a 12-word wallet will reduce the size of the signature and reduce the load on the network. Am I correct?

No. If you have 12 or 120 words, the key size will be exactly the same. All these words just produce a set of hashes. The hashes produce private keys, and private keys are always the same size.

What's the purpose of the KelVPN device?

It's a VPN router, like a Wi-Fi access point or just an Ethernet router, but with the ability to route your traffic through KelVPN. A very useful thing. It provides transparent access to VPN. Just connect to Wi-Fi or to the wire and all the traffic becomes VPN-protected.

When will Node 6.0 be implemented?

Release candidates are already available on GitHub. If you're asking about its release, it's planned for this autumn, maybe September or October. Just yesterday we discussed with team members that it would be very good to release it before October, so we can present this version at Blockchain Live or at Token 2049, another conference that will be held this autumn.

When will we have smart contracts?

We will begin to work on them in October or maybe September. So it's a little postponed. Anyway, we have a big set of different conditional transactions that are enough for 90% of projects. So study this technology and try to use it for your projects if you are waiting for smart contracts.

Any timeline for the auctions release? Will it be the next released feature?

Close to a week or two. It's vacation time here. Most of the key developers are on vacation or they should be back from vacation soon. So we are waiting for them and then we'll release everything very quickly.

Is Cellframe safe if I3ATLAS is an alien mothership and not a comet?

You are asking about the third interstellar object i3 Atlas. It has some strange elements in its trajectory. We need to wait just for a few months, and if it will pass by Jupiter, Mars, and if it does something like a gravitational maneuver, it's an alien ship for sure. If it does not do these maneuvers, we'll see how its path continues on the other side of the sun, and it's not an alien mothership for sure. Just wait for one or two months. Everything will be clear. We just started tracking it about two weeks ago.

When will Cellframe be in the top 3?

When the quantum apocalypse happens, I think. It would be good to be in the top 10 before that, but that's the maximum possibility before the quantum apocalypse. So for the top 3 or top 1, we need to compete in the market.

When will the CELL bullrun start?

Usually, rises in our local market happen at the same time as rises in the altcoin market and when something significant happens in quantum technologies, especially in quantum computers. So if you see some breakthrough in quantum calculation, in encryption breaking with quantum computers, it's a sign of a common CELL bullrun, I think.

Is there any information or estimated timeframe for when Quantum Resistant Cellframe technology might start being used for crypto asset protection?

Yes, right now. The earlier we start, the better the protection will be, because if no one migrates and waits for the apocalypse, at the moment of the apocalypse, more CELL tokens will remain on the unprotected network. And the more tokens that remain on the unprotected network, the greater the price impact will be during the apocalypse. So it is in your interest to migrate as early as possible.

When is the iOS wallet?

I think it will be the beginning of September. We're waiting for the guys to return from vacation.

Will the Hackathon happen before auctions? Makes sense if so because this way a lot of developers will be involved.

Yes and no. It would be good, but I think it will happen after, just because we will run the auctions earlier. Anyway, it will show some success stories and we can show future developers that it's a really interesting thing.

And before the second auction happens, we'll do hackathons to have more projects for it. And most importantly, we need to release the 6.0 version, because it should significantly lower the entry level for new developers, as it has a much simpler API. It’s better to organize the hackathon when a simpler API is available.

Will the Cellframe network withstand the load during a quantum apocalypse at the moment?

I think yes. Especially when we finish at least the hardfork mechanism and second-level sharding for sure.

This refers to the moment when everyone will start hiding funds in secure networks?

Anyway, I think we'll be ready with a hardfork, because we can just run a hardfork and it will handle the load on our zero shard. But I think we'll prepare second-level sharding before this big load.

Is it possible to add a password to transfer a token at the blockchain level so pushing attacks can be stopped, I hope.

But where will you store your password? Passwords for token transfer are already present, by the way. You can protect your wallet with a password. It's ready. It can protect maybe from some sort of hacking attack, but not a phishing attack. Your primary firewall for phishing attacks is your brain.

Any new projects in the pipeline?

I always receive new ideas; new entrepreneurs ask me. There are a lot of people who are going to run some projects, but only a small number of these ideas ever reach the moment when we can announce them here.

When will KelVPN have more usability and a buyback program?

We'll have more usability with the KelVPN 8.0 release. Regarding the buyback program, stay tuned.

Okay. That was everything for today. We are CELL! We are here! Thank you for everything. Goodbye.